"; Photo No. Amateur radio operators visiting Mackinaw may operate the W8AGB station whenever a CCECPSCO member is present. The car ferries run to Frankfort from Manitowoc and Kewaunee, Wisc. Usually, the call will come in from a local dispatch or directly from the medical clinic on one of the islands.. **********************
Her first commanding officer was CDR E. J. Roland. 632 Coast Guard Drive With the aid of her two 12-ton cranes, she can handle the heaviest buoys on the lakes, and carry fuel and supplies to Coast Guard stations. A Jayhawk helicopter at U.S. Air Station Traverse City, designed for long-range search and rescue work. A retail store on the vessel sells relevant products. There are also four 300hp Fairbanks-Morse O-P diesels for auxiliary services, and there are the Fairbanks-Morse heeling and trimming pumps to help the Mackinaw shake herself out of trouble when it is at its very worst.". The Mac, Queen of the Great Lakes as Mackinaw has been known with affection, provided 62 years of outstanding service facilitating commerce in support of the economy of the entire nation. After 30 years and learning the computer and finding VetFriends, I went to my first reunion of the USS Navasota AO-106. Along with the Wind-Class icebreakers, Mackinaw's frames were spaced about 16-inches apart, and they made up a truss similar to that found in an inverted hangar, and an inner shell was built inside that truss. 241786; photo by PAC Jeff Hall. The 20 members of her crew were all safely rescued by a good samaritan vessel, and no injuries were reported. Back at the Traverse City airport, the crew offloaded the patient to awaiting EMS., Once back at the Air Station, the crew headed in for a debriefing on the flight and the patient transfer. mission in the Great Lakes. The accident did not delay the ship, which arrival on schedule on December 17, 2005. On 1 April 1970 she helped free the grounded M/V Stadacona near the Mackinaw Bridge. When Mandarin and Ashtabula puff out of Duluth Union Depot, two of Mandarin's wheel arches are missing. I had a great time and intend to go again next year. .The 292-foot Coast Guard Icebreaker Mackinaw, right, comes
Captain Triner was later permanently relieved of duty[4] and replaced by Captain Michael Hudson. He was generous enough to give MLive readers a glimpse of what went on behind the scenes of this rescue flight: It was great to see first-hand the coordination between all the different agencies involved that evening, and how as a crew we can come together to effect a successful MEDEVAC, Durfee said. Photo No. Coast Guard Petty Officer 1st Class Keith Showalter says the accident happened about 10:45 a.m. Sunday. After welding the cracks in the ore carrier's hull, Mackinaw towed the damaged freighter to safety through the ice. MACKINAW CITY, Mich. (AP) - The U.S. Coast Guard says one of its ice-breakers sustained significant damage in a collision with a freighter in the Straits of Mackinac. He reached this conclusion after reviewing investigations concerning the collision and subsequent reports of inappropriate use of alcohol by Triner and some members of his crew at an event in Cheboygan on December 17. The Philippine Coast Guard was alerted and activated its local stations rescuers. The Coast Guard's design work had been based on the research conducted by LCDR Edward Thiele, USCG, during a trip he made to Europe to study Scandinavian icebreaker design as well as on the design of the Soviet icebreaker Krassin. In 1790, Congress authorized the Secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton, to create a maritime service to enforce customs laws (1 Stat. Predecessors. 240' USCGC Mackinaw (WLBB) 225' Seagoing Buoy Tender (WLB) 210' Medium Endurance Cutter (WMEC) 175' Coastal Buoy Tender (WLM . Usually the MACKINAW heads first for the strategic area of the Straits of Mackinac about the first week in March to begin ice operations. Photo was taken probably between 1 January 1949 and 28 June 1950. Enroute, the paramedic and Petty Officers Wagner and Bersch monitored and cared for the patient. "'BIG MAC' USCG ICEBREAKER MACKINAW (WAGB-83) 'Big Mac' as sometimes the
Robert Scheina. All rights reserved. 524 subscribers The U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Mackinaw is a one of a kind icebreaker on the Great Lakes. new icebreaker MACKINAW during trial runs on Lake Huron. Mackinaw was based on the Wind-class icebreakers first designed during the early years of World War II for icebreaking and combat operations in Arctic waters. 91.7 Ann Arbor/Detroit 104.1 Grand Rapids
USCGC MACKINAW (WAGB-83) U.S. Coast Guard Photo Class: Mackinaw Class Icebreaker Commisioned: 20 Dec 1944 At: Toledo Shipbuilding Co. Captain Hudson was subsequently replaced by Commander John Little in April 2006. ice-covered St. Mary's River in an epochal mid-winter passage from the docks of
She now resides in Mackinaw City, the community for which she was named. Following the formal celebration, crew members, including Triner, moved to a Cheboygan bar where they continued to consume alcoholic beverages, according to a retired Coast Guard officer familiar with the event. ]; Photo No. "GRAND HAVEN, Mich. (July 30, 2003)--Coast Guard Cutter Mackinaw, the 270-foot Great Lake
While I have had years of training up to this point, there was definitely a feeling of adrenaline heading out to the helicopter prior to launching. USCGC Mackinaw (WLBB-30) is a 240-foot (73 m) multi-purpose vessel with a primary mission as a heavy icebreaker specifically built for operations on the North American Great Lakes for the United States Coast Guard. Showalter says the Mesabi Mine was hauling Iron Ore to Gary, Ind. The collision caused damage to the new vessel's bow as well as to the wall. Come aboard for a virtual tour of the ship led by Lt. j.g. USCGC Mackinaw (WLBB-30) is a 240-foot (73 m) vessel built as a heavy icebreaker for operations on the North American Great Lakes for the United States Coast Guard.IMO number: 9271054. Cheboygan, Michigan. months. Though icebreaking is the MACKINAW's big function, she is not idle during the summer months. The U.S. Coast Guard is required by law to maintain a heavy icebreaking capability on the Great Lakes to assist in keeping channels and harbors open to navigation in response to the reasonable demands of commerce to meet the winter shipping needs of industry. Coordinates: .mw-parser-output .geo-default,.mw-parser-output .geo-dms,.mw-parser-output .geo-dec{display:inline}.mw-parser-output .geo-nondefault,.mw-parser-output .geo-multi-punct{display:none}.mw-parser-output .longitude,.mw-parser-output .latitude{white-space:nowrap}454646.90N 844311.55W / 45.7796944N 84.7198750W / 45.7796944; -84.7198750, personally family knowledge my mother was one of the first 12 women hired, Last edited on 27 February 2023, at 05:59, Learn how and when to remove this template message, http://www.ccecpsco.org/icebreaker-mackinaw-6/, "WZZM 13 News: Mighty Mac lowers anchor Icebreaker rides St. Clair River for final time", Icebreaker Mackinaw Maritime Museum official site, Charlevoix, Cheboygan, Emmet Counties Public Service Communications Organization, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=USCGC_Mackinaw_(WAGB-83)&oldid=1141861625, Diesel fuel: 276,000U.S.gal (1,040,000L), Lubrication oil: 7,000U.S.gal (26,000L), Potable water: 40,200U.S.gal (152,000L), Ballast water: 121,631U.S.gal (460,420L), Heel and trim ballast water: 345,828U.S.gal (1,309,100L), This page was last edited on 27 February 2023, at 05:59. She was built with a length of 290ft.[8][9] For ground tackle she shipped two 6,000lb (2,700kg) stockless bower anchors with 2-inch-diameter (51mm) links. (U.S. Coast Guard photo by Daniel R. Michelson). "'GROUP OF WOMEN WORKERS AT TOL. Her effectiveness in keeping the shipping lanes open longer than ever before was pointed out in an information bulletin which stated: "In the years previous to the MACKINAW, general navigation on the Great Lakes was closed to shipping due to ice on the average of about 4-1/2 months a year. Published Because she was built specially for the Great Lakes she was too wide to fit through the pre-1959 Saint Lawrence Seaway her hull was built lighter than the Wind-class vessels, but shared many characteristics, such as a relatively short length in proportion to the great power developed, a cut-away forefoot, rounded bottom, and fore, aft and side heeling tanks. Triner has a right to appeal the decision to Atlantic Area Commander Vice Admiral Vivien Crea. Length : 240 feet : Beam: 58.5 feet : Draft: 16 feet : Displacement (LT) 3,500 : Maximum Speed: 15 knots : Crew Size: After a year-long process, the contract was awarded to a Belgian consortium between Jan de Nul and DEME that will utilize their specialized fleets and long-experience in offshore construction. Papp temporarily relieved Triner of his command December 15 after the cutter hit a break wall in Grand Haven, Mich. Papp made the decision to recommend permanent relief, citing loss of confidence in Triner's ability to command. powerful ship of its type in the world, runs interference for four seagoing freighters through the
While en route to her new home port of Cheboygan, Michigan, the Mackinaw struck a seawall in Grand Haven, Michigan on December 12, 2005. Mackinaw has also plowed through 37 ft. of windrow (broken) ice. Mar 1, 2023 9:01 PM by Jan 19, 2006 12:01 AM by 52; photographer unknown. On 13 April 1960 she assisted the ice-damaged M/V Henry Phipps, a 585-foot ore carrier. Technicians are currently working on the problem. These icebreaker plans were developed and prepared by Gibbs & Cox of New York off of preliminary design work conducted by the Coast Guard's Naval Engineering Division. An H04S-2G helicopter
It was joined by the new Mackinaw (WLBB 30) in October 2005 and decommissioned June 10, 2006. "With respect to the event in Cheboygan, Captain Triner has exhibited personal behavior and conduct inconsistent with service norms and expectations for the commanding officer of a Coast Guard cutter." The shipyard opened their hiring to Toledo area women. [1] It can be seen and toured at Grand Haven's Coast Guard Festival every summer. "; 4 January 1999;
The Mackinaw is stationed at Cheboygan, Michigan. They initially hired 12 'helpers' within a short time and eventually hired over 100 women workers. ";
Due to her age and expensive upkeep, she was decommissioned and replaced with a smaller multipurpose vessel, USCGCMackinaw(WLBB-30), which was commissioned in Cheboygan the same day. [3] Additionally, the Mackinaw can continuously proceed through fresh water ice up to 32 inches (81cm) thick at 3 knots or 14 inches (36cm) at 10 knots. Robert Scheina. That may sound like a long time, but 30 minutes goes fast when you need to gather information on the situation, check the weather, plan a flight, change into survival gear, brief the plan and contingencies, and then get in and execute the various checklists necessary to start up and take off in the helicopter.. She also served as a goodwill ambassador for the Coast Guard and a training vessel. "Sault Ste Marie, Mich. (Jan. 23, 2004) - The Coast Guard Cutter Mackinaw
This service was placed under the control of the Treasury Department. The young woman was a passenger on a snowmobile that crashed into a group of trees. On 5 April 1968 she helped free the M/V W. B. Schiller from heavy ice in Lake Superior. The Mackinaw was built specifically for Great Lakes use. Vessel was designed to keep lake shipping lanes open during the winter months. . Among the missions the current Mackinaw is capable of and tasked with as needed is buoy tending, law enforcement and interdiction, search and rescue, and environmental remediation response. Her design is made longer with a wider beam and shallower draft to allow her to operate in the Great Lakes. According to Admiral Thiele, the "Mackinaw was nothing but a Wind-class ship that was squashed down and pushed out and extended to meet the requirements of the [Great] Lakes." Tragically, the Mackinaw was unavailable to support the freighters on that fateful night, and was unable to support in the futile search for survivors over the following days. 231649; photo by PA3 Cindy Marshall. MACKINAC ISLAND, MI A woman in need of urgent medical assistance received some help from an unlikely source. U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Katmai Bay, a 140-foot icebreaker, was clearing a path on the St. Mary's River and immediately set a course for Mackinac Island. Fortunately, the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Katmai Bay, a 140-foot icebreaker, was clearing a path on the St. Marys River and immediately set a course for Mackinac Island. "CHEBOYGAN, Mich. (Jan. 4)--The Coast Guard Cutter Mackinaw conducting an ice-breaking
The Coast Guard's 9th District commander, Rear Adm. Robert Papp, has recommended permanent relief for the commander of the new Great Lakes icebreaker "Mackinaw," following a collision December 12, 2005 that dented the yet-to-be-commissioned ship. 179; photographer unknown. United States Coast Guard Atlantic Area Search. Dr. Quinton' [;] Cutter MACKINAW"; 20 March 1943;
Congress authorized the funds to construct that icebreaker for the Great Lakes on 17 December 1941. Lower Lake Michigan, as six Coast Guard Cutters attempted to keep necessary traffic
USCGC Juniper (WLB-201) is the lead ship of the U.S. Coast Guard's current class of seagoing buoy tenders.She is outfitted with some of the most advanced technological and navigational capabilities currently available. No caption; dated 15 March 1966; Photo No. Permanent relief recommended for (new) Mackinaw captain. Katmai Bay arrived at the islands main dock about 11 a.m. Published In this photo from 2014, the Coast Guard Cutter Katmai Bay, a 140-foot ice-breaking tug, escorts the motor vessel Calumet through Lake Michigan near Lansing Shoal. "'Pronouncement of Blessing By Rev. E-MAIL: You will be given computer access and an email account. NEWS RELEASE U.S. COAST GUARD ********************** Permanent relief recommended for (new) Mackinaw captain CLEVELAND Rear Adm. David Helwig's journalism career spans seven decades beginning in the 1960s. The CCECPSCO group planned to add extra antennae for VHF and UHF repeater use and a KC8TU customized wire antenna.[13]. Seeing them work and provide care was quite inspiring.. In recent decades she continued to extend the shipping season from late March until mid-January. Our goal is to have the wheels of the helicopter leave the pavement less than 30 minutes after the alarm goes off. "After reviewing both investigations, I have concluded that Capt. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Advance Local. United States Coast Guard Atlantic Area U.S. Department of Homeland Security. The photo was taken on Monday, 8 January 1945. USCGCMACKINAW (WLBB-30) The CCECPSCO conducts Amateur Radio Field Day operations from Mackinaw on the fourth full weekend in June. I feel extremely lucky to be in a position where I am able to impact someone on one of their worst days. USCGC Mackinaw (WAGB-83), an icebreaker in commission from 1944 to 2006 USCGC Mackinaw (WLBB-30), an icebreaker in commission since 2006 See also. Love reading about our local Coast Guard? Included with the radios on board the ship are two Sunair RT-9000 HF transceivers with matching antenna couplers and vertical antennas. Economic: Fluid Capacities (in gallons):
after conducting an ice-breaking mission in the Great Lakes. Photo is dated sometime between 1990 and June, 1998. maximum load)
through twin screws in the stern and one in the bow. USCGC Mackinac USS Mackinac USS Mackinaw After the accident, Captain Triner stayed on board as an adviser until the ship reached Cheboygan. The Mackinaw (WAGB-83) was laid down on 20 March 1943 at Toledo Shipbuilding Company in Toledo, Ohio. She carries on the proud legacy and tradition of her predecessor, CGC MACKINAW (WAGB-83), who faithfully served the maritime community throughout the Great Lakes for over 60 years. On 21 November 1966 she transported 29 crewmen from the grounded German M/V Nordmeer to Alpine, Michigan and on 29 November 1966 she evacuated the remaining crewmen. 2 June 1943; Photo No. Line drawing of the Mackinaw originally published. Vessel was designed to keep lake shipping lanes open during the winter
Normally, lake ice begins thawing at the end of April, but "Big Mac" -- as the icebreaker is affectionately called in the lakes region -- has opened shipping lanes as early as the third week in March, thus facilitating the early movement of millions of tons of iron ore, grain, and other vital cargo. perched on the stern makes ice surveys for the icebreaker during its 6 to 8
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