Six mana? And [[Optimus Prime, Hero]] is pretty cool, very good suggestion. martyr's cause - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) Curious to know what y'all have found to be the most fun Commander you've played with and which you found the least enjoyable to helm. It can probably be stronger but I like it as it is, https://archidekt.com/decks/2194247#Derevi, Ashnod's altar - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) Artifacts is the most popular theme in EDH, and they're incredibly powerful when used right. White also adds the best spot removal in the form of Condemn (for those tricky generals), Path to Exile, and of course Swords to Plowshares. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. Or big value creature decks, like [[yarok]], yarok - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) To be honest probably any bant deck, or simic/Selesnya, green I play a partner deck of [[Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker]]/ [[Slurrk, All-Ingesting]] it is pretty resilient. The literal and graphical information presented on this site about Magic: The Gathering, including card images, the mana symbols, and Oracle text, is copyright Wizards of the Coast . He gets removed, he pops back out just as strong as he left. And since [[molten echoes]] and [[harmonic prodigy]] were printed, it gives it even more etb support. Toggo - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) Derevi has been recommended the most, Ill have to give her a try. Yuriko - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) The most unfortunate part to me is that he just serves as the most efficient commander for multiple strategies in Jund. Show all (1172) Five Color Commanders If you want a deck with many average match ups, go with GAAIV. One thing I've learned quickly is that the deck can be surprisingly resilient even against high tier commanders. Advised for large posts. The dash mechanic becomes super cool here as does ninjutsu as well as myriad. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. Derevi Flicker us what I'm rebuilding right now. It's very hard not have anything to cast Dargo with. Most fun commander I have currently is probably [[Titania, Natures force]]. It hurts so bad man. Vaevictis Asmadi? Commander / EDH rvancetal. Most fun to play against: Decks with light stax like [[Ethersworn Canonist]] that you have to solve like a puzzle to get to the win. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Squee, The Immortal - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) First game I played with my Norin deck was against a [[Toggo]] deck and a [[Niv-Mizzet, Parun]] deck. Wincon is getting a board full of big creatures and turning them sideways: [[Cyclonic Rift]], [[Whelming Wave]], [[Slinn Voda]], [[Brinelin]], [[Hullbreaker Horror]], [[Scourge of Fleets]], [[Breaching Leviathan]], [[Distorting Wake]], [[Lorthos]], [[Ugin, the Spirit Dragon]]. in front of your post to get a pm with all blocks replaced by images (to edit). Running a black deck with 7 staple tutors usually makes a deck feel this way as well. Meren of Clan Nel Toth CMC (Converted Mana Cost): 4 Colors: Green, Black nahiri equipment maters (Commander / EDH MTG Deck) This collection is out of date, you may click here to see the latest version nahiri equipment maters Commander / EDH* Mono-White Tristanvh1 Type Name Creature (25) 1x Argivian Archaeologist 1x Armory Automaton 1x Auriok Steelshaper 1x Brass Squire 1x Cavalier of Dawn 1x Danitha Capashen, Paragon Because never dying without additional artifact removal isn't busted. Derevi has so many different avenues to build around. A person only has so much non-destroy removal. Proteus Staff - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) [[henzie]] hes low cost and killing him makes everything in the deck cheaper. https://www.archidekt.com/decks/3605679#Yeva_Green_Control, There is the deck list for reference. Also not the bestbut at least good enough for casual play. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. I've never seen anyone use creatures like [[Whitemane Lion]] in token decks, most token players I've fought use Jetmir and more conventional token making strats, but I find Oketra's methods very satisfying. The more I played, the more I hated myself. Cards. Won a lot of games due to people underestimating how you can stack triggers. Derevi. (Hheheh). The Nitpicking Nerds - The Most Hated Commanders in the Format | The Least Fun Commanders to Play Against December 15, 2021 by Community Spotlight Some commanders just make the game much more stressful than others. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, Depends what you want in resilience. Basically any commander that enable flash shenanigans or haste so you can do stuff on the turn you play cards is huge. Dargo in its own right is very easy to cast as long as you get some fuel for it. I played him last night! You can see how crucial your commander is in EDH format, but with hundreds of legendary units to pick from, which are worth your time? One of my favorite voltrons, he is a pain to get rid of even with the lightest of protection packages. I agree with your statement, if youre looking for value grindy engines its hard to beat the king. Definitely do! Mono green can run extra ramp in tandem with deathtouch of all things, and short of a board wipe, you have a wall of cheap deathtouch creatures that can drop poison counters as soon as you paywhatfour? [[Beledros Witherbloom]] is easily my best deck for this. Do you know what playing her is like. The new Urza is surprisingly resilient to removal and the Affinity for Artifact creatures makes him pretty great on the rebound not to mention the free Construct each turn. Kresh? And [[Optimus Prime, Hero]] is pretty cool, very good suggestion. Instead they offer incremental small advantages that slowly bring the game under your control. The most resilient commanders I ran were Emiel flicker/lifegain and Hofri Hatebears. +1 for Liesa. And the deck doesnt care if he gets killed a few times. The first reason is that, arguably, the best colors in CEDH are Blue, Green and Black and you lose out in two of those colors with this commander. [[muldrotha]], [[child of alara]], [[kenrith]] can all do big things with little board state or hand. 2023 Magic Find, Inc. All rights reserved. Saffi is also hard to keep off, but in the weirdest way. I'm not a Derevi player though so I'm sure someone can speak to this better than myself. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. Maybe Im just looking for solid midrange commanders? Evolutionary Leap - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) Derevi - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) My friend's deck was made to proc Meren multiple times and it was unplayable. Out of curiosity, what decks do you have the most trouble facing with this deck? She definitely goes brrrrr, Braids, Arisen Nightmare - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)Purphoros, Bronze-Blooded - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)God-Eternal Oketra - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)Ilharg - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)Port Razer - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)Karlach - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)Whitemane Lion - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)Defiler of Faith - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)Oketra's Monument - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. I'll give a brief overview of how the deck works and show the full deck list, as well as a link to a gameplay video on youtube. I developed the 20 Easy Steps in order to make the functional usage of the infamous 60 Easy Steps developed by N o o b z a u r s reasonable to use. Ive considered him, I could do probably get away with it in my meta. Prossh - (G) (MC)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, I'd say Tasigur because Delve and Card advantage. I added more instants into my own deck right after that as protection. Anything that can play w/o the commander - elfball, UGx goodstuff decks, grixis stax, Azami. A deck that feels linear. Yuriko - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) Enough countermagic to protect itself, and the ability to play Niv and combo win the same turn (especially with Greaves or Swifty Boots) gets around the sweepers. Hello, I need your help,. Oketra is my token deck and a fun one at that. As you're looking to win through combat damage, Equipment like Nettlecyst and Fireshrieker are automatic inclusions. Absolutely zero fun to play against to the point where Ill ask the person to run a different deck, Titania, Natures force - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. Card Kingdom $1069 - 1105 . Least fun for me have been creature-type based commanders like [[Wilhelt]], [[Giada]] and most recently (unfortunately) [[Belakor]]. It makes me feel horrible inside to play it, becuase it reminds me of how I'll never get to be with Marchesa, and cuddle with her, and have her hold my head in her lap. To advance the subject of an Izzet deck, I think that Niv-Mizzet (fire mind) would have a very good chance to fare well in your meta. you can run a swamp in Commander if you are playing Mangara, yet you could not in EDH (this is only really important with bounce-lands from my pow). [[Marchesa the Black Rose]] is pretty good at staying on the field. I think Henzie has been one of the purest midrange strategies Ive played in edh. Im looking again, and have my sights set on Konda, but since he isnt very good, Id thought Id ask first. Command Beacon - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) Do you feel Derevi has flexibility in its play patterns? Fully agree that light stax is fun, the issue always comes down to what the stax player is trying to do & how long it takes them to do it. For the record, the design team agree with you 100%. Sorry. I play in a competitive environment so I am looking for very competitive cut throat decklists that don't care about people's feelings. chulane, teller of tales - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. I know Slicer is used a lot as an aggro commander but I am looking more for a combo deck with one of these. Surprised no one has yet mentioned [[Koma, Cosmos Serpent]]. Tyrannate_X. Hullbreaker Horror - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) I have only made minor updates since I first put it together so there may be some more cards that deserve a home here from the last year or so, but ultimately the plan is to get dargo out ASAP to smash face. And remember: you can upvote a comment even if you disagree with it, if you think it's a discussion worth having. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Most fun commander I have currently is probably [[Titania, Natures force]]. Derevi, Empyrial Tactician - Gatherer, MC, ($), edhrecKarametra, God of Harvests - Gatherer, MC, ($), edhrecNorin, the Wary - Gatherer, MC, ($), edhrecSigarda, Host of Herons - Gatherer, MC, ($), edhrecCall cards (max 30) with [[NAME]]Add !!! Godo is a mono red commander, which means you doesn't have access to some of the most powerful cards in the format. My [[Arcanis]] deck feels super resilient, I play him as a "sea monster tribal" battlecruiser deck with a "card draw matters" sidehustle. Edit: kinda ike Urza, you can tap equipment. [[determined iteration]] is such a cool card in this deck. Most resilient decks to control/sweeper decks - Multiplayer Commander Decklists - Commander (EDH) - The Game - MTG Salvation Forums - MTG Salvation 2019 Holiday Exchange! Making it so those two can just never pay it was a big design mistake. You get board wiped, you play Izoni and get a ton of bugs which you can sac for draw/lifegain. Its wild how one [[Kalonian Hydra]] cast can threaten someones entire life total. What makes her up here is precisely her first ability, which escapes the Commander concepts even more than the last two positions. Backing it up with a reanimation package really lets you push through spot removal and board wipes. It's become the glue that helps to hold the collectible card game's fandom together. Plenty of fetches, and play lands from graveyards and you are constantly making threats. Tergrid. Ive found it incredibly hard to consistently keep [[fynn]] out for too long. and features quick-dry and super comfortable during water sports. Im surprised about this not coming up sooner also. Some off the oppistions includes Maelstrom Wanderer, GBw graveyard good stuff, Azami, Narset, Damia, stax decks, and other such competitive decks. I've run a [[Anhelo, the Painter]], [[Sythis, Harvest's Hand]], [[Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver]] and [[Gyome, Master Chef]] deck so far and enjoyed each of them. Phylath world sculptor. Least fun? Marchesa the Black Rose - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) Im here for the grind, and it looks like you deck can still close a game out. Edit: Thanks everyone for all the suggestions. Also, potentially, things like Norin or Obzedat. Least fun? Things like Thrun the last troll and of course, our legendary friends. Or Toxrill. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. But after a while, you end up playing solitaire and creating redundant value. ", which would make me blush even harder. Definitely one of my favorites and much more table-friendly than Dargo+[[Jeska, Thrice Reborn]], Dargo - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) Such a clean setup. It doesn't matter anyway though. I appreciate this suggestion. Even tho you've already got plenty of suggestions, from my experience, my old deck I used to have of [[Kenrith, the Returned King]] was quite resilient as I very often had stuff to do. Press J to jump to the feed. I have a fondness for bird card art that are just like oil paintings of regular ass looking birds. He never even sees the board so he can't be stopped. A good Sisay or Kenrith list is virtually never out of it. My play group is very high power and generally anything goes with combos, stax, etc. Im not even running like good birds and its pretty okay still. Hes so hard to get rid of and doesnt even give opponents an opening to counterspell him. I'm obviously biased, but once you find a version that works for you, it'll be a blast. One of the favorite things my Urza chief artificer deck did was turn [[pandemonium]] into kill Norin. Made by Will Luft. Solid idea, I like the colors as well. [[Volo]] has been a lot of fun mostly due to the weird board states you can produce with cloning effects and copies from having unique types casted. I personally pilot both a cedh and low-mid power version. My modular Marchesa deck is among my favorite decks, if not my all time favorite. Backgrounds are a type of enchantment that only affect commanders you own. Or alive. Phyrexia: All Will Be One has spawned a number of new decks. It can be so good if you want it to be. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Card Name. Marchesa the Black Rose - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) My favourite is what has been dubbed "dishonest beatdown", in which you control the game with removal, counters, etc on cheap creatures who can occasionally ramp you with hit triggers. As I'm reading the message I would blush and stutter because she's so beautiful, and then she would smirk at me and say "aww, is someone shy for mommy? Krark is possibly the most chaotic card in all of Commander Legends. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, Do you have a list? Pod gets clonky at higher end tables. [[Clever impersonator]] being cast targeting an impactful non creature permanent feels great as another example. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. Glissa is a tremendously powerful creature at any stage of the game, both blocking and attacking with near-impunity against all but the most resilient boardstates and creatures. I also barely ever have to worry about running out of gas since Braids refills my hand quite easily at the end step. Skullbriar, the walking grave - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) He's been the most consistent commander I've been able to immediately cast following removal. Seems like [[Derevi]] and [[Yuriko]] are the top two. It's relatively low budget and doesn't abuse stax abilities but it's quite fun to play. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. I would have to second Karador. Lorthos - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) I've been meaning to slide a bunch of background cards into my [[Crovax, Ascendant Hero]] deck. My [[Kruphix, God of Horizons]] deck is solid as well. If he gets hit by graveyard removal, you can put him into the command zone. Like every new player I was like "omg she's so cool!" Wilson, Refined Grizzly - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) My derevi deck is a X spells deck with a tap/untap subtheme. [[Old Stickfingers]] doesn't care how many times you kill him, since that just means you get to cast him again. Bonus points if the deck has varying play patterns from game to game. For now he has a Shorikai that he's quite fond of,but that doesn't cut the deal hard enough. Norin and [[purphoros, god of the forge]] are best friends. These are 10 of the strongest commanders in EDH format of Magic: The Gathering! Sythis Harvests Hand - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) [[Norin the Wary]] is probably the most resilient commander on his own. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. I'd say the Theros gods. Aside from that, the deck hits most of the points you're after; it can combo but doesn't have to, doesn't rely on commander, has life gain/bleed, copy, graveyard synergies, isn't anti- synergy, and it's pretty efficient. Some do bird tribal too. kenrith - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) The last board sweeper is somewhat controversial, and while I do not endorse the use of Armageddon I will grant that it is often seen as a staple in a white EDH deck. Least fun for me? I'm honestly surprised that I haven't seen more Theros based god generals. Tasigur is mildly annoyed by RiP and Leyline, but its pretty resilient otherwise. It hurts so much knowing that I'll never get to be with her on the plane of Fiora. Zahid - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) The clones make it super flexible, and the deck kind of scales up or down with the power level of the table. Emry - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) samut voice of dissent - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) [[Izoni, Thousand-Eyed]] is kinda a weird commander where you don't mind her getting killed? I played a blink derevi deck for awhile. Magic the Gathering Resources, Tools, Previews, and Community. A list of tribes and their popularity in EDH may also be found here. My play group is very high power and generally anything goes with combos, stax, etc. He revives himself when killed, and if its not his controllers turn then he comes back as a non-creature artifact, meaning you need more general removal or artifact specific removal to deal with him a second time. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. Such a clean setup. I think "light stax is fun to play against" might be the point of contention. Marchesa takes a bit of work, but access to blue goes a long way towards answering whatever Marchesa's abilities can't handle. Kruphix, God of Horizons - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) What is background? [[Yuriko]] hands down is one of the best as long as you can get a 1/1 through. It's basically a French vanilla creature with an alternative mana cost, but when the hell are you not going to have artifacts on the battlefield? There have been some very good ideas shared so far. Plays well with stax pieces, dodges commander tax and can be put directly into play at instant speed. What are some of the most resilient commanders? [[Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait]] and other simic value engine decks end up being the least fun for me. Im doing bird tribal right now. So i asked him his need. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. Is there any other commanders that you think fit this same kind of feeling for a commander? [[Meren]] is the bane of my existence. My friends use others like [[Ur-Dragon]] but I just dont find them interesting. Liesa, Shroud of Dusk - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) Scourge of Fleets - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) Thanks for the ideas everyone! [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. I appreciate you put her in the same category as those two. You load him up with counters. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, Not saying it's one of the most resilient, but my [[Xyris, the writhing storm]] deck will survive most things, Xyris, the writhing storm - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) Random Commander. Deckcycle Deckcycle Feature Queue. In a nekusar feild with alot of wheel effects having a huge GY is Karador's best friend. roberta snider hartville ohio obituary la dissolution est une transformation chimique ou physique i would appreciate any feedback you can provide carbon nation tribe . Sissay is a really good take thank you! [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. Press J to jump to the feed. Double points if they don't run enough tutors / draw to actually find their win con. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, [[Rocco]] with [[Norin]] as the secret commander slaps. We polled our Discord community to see which legendary creatures they hated the most in Commander! Good luck killing him! All of these strategies give him solid sacrifice targets to keep your hand full, he even draws on entrance. They can also be played as normal enchantments in your 99, but they do basically nothing unless you have your commander on board. My [[Brokkos, Apex of Forever]] deck is definitely the most annoying for my opponents to get rid of. Edit Live Edit. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, derevi - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) Namely, that is, combo'ing without an Eldrazi Titan, or through an Anafenza, the Foremost.The entire thing is in the Document I mentioned at the beginning . They can cheat a commander in if needed, or gain so much value from resolving it, that its death doesnt matter soon. hes been my main deck for 7 years and the most ive ever paid for him has been 4 (once or twice), his cost reduction and relatively innocent looking effect (you can pay full price for a creature once per turn) keep him from being the target of removal pretty often--hard for people to justify 2-3 cmc removal on a guy when they know youll cast him for 3 again anyways. The original Phyrexianized elf herself, Glissa, the Traitor, had certain deckbuilding constraints you'd need to obey to realize maximum value. [[Athreos, God of Passage]] might be a good fit. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ciyYqmGAEkCdrNiBVw9JaA. 15 Rats. A r v a i l says . I was surprised too. It does feel very inevitable when playing against it. Card images and text from Scryfall. Ive recently put together a [[Yeva, Natures Herald]] deck and what I have come to appreciate most about the deck is its resiliency to really never feel like its out of the game. And what are your experiences with them? Gavin Verhey and Melissa DeTora both discuss in their review of Derevi and Yuriko's respective commander products that cheating the tax is almost always a mistake. That dude never stays dead. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. It's just not my favorite. Resilient Commander Hello, I need your help,. It made me realize that I really like synergy and fun interactions over pure power of individual cards. lux cannon - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, Marchesa clones is really fun, and pretty resilient. This site works best with JavaScript enabled. Distorting Wake - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. That being said, Ghalta will likely stay in the command zone if you cant get some other creatures into the battlefield. If he's targeted, just activate him and then flicker him with your big flicker package that any Mangara deck needs, Mangara of Corondor - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) It's incredibly effective. It feels like your board is just never empty, you eat removal with a smile and are actively hoping another player casts a wrath. Of course that's two cards. What decks can survive trial by fire and still pull off a win through the hate? Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List] (Commander / EDH MTG Deck) This collection is out of date, you may click here to see the latest version Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List] Commander / EDH* Competitive Mono-Black Multiplayer Primer thegigibeast ShaperSavant LabManiac_Sigi Upvote 0 Playtest v1 [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. Do you feel Derevi has flexibility in its play patterns? Most fun to play: Any deck that makes you feel like you've discovered a secret recipe. Consistent combo decks - Animar, Prossh, marath. Derevi Flicker us what I'm rebuilding right now. It is a totally fine deck to build, but I am of the camp that the strategy isnt especially conducive to long term fun. Ever. If youre looking for hip mono green option, [[Multani, Yavimayas avatar]] can dodge tax, get massive quick, and help chug along your landfalls? If you enjoy tutor decks, more power to you. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, Comes back with such a great vengeance I even kill him myself to get those tokens to trigger [[impact tremors]] or [[parallel lives]], I can tell you the opposite of a resilient commander. henzie - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER) The only thing that I would say is harder to remove would be commanders with indestructible unless you are doing hard exile like swords or PTE in white. His ability is great. Derevi is not really that resilient, boardswiped really fuck with it, and the deck runs out of gas easily. What are some of the most Resiliant generals? Perhaps none more powerful than the Storm deck using Venerated Rotpriest and Ground Rift to give opponents a lethal number of poison counters as early as turn two. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, a huge fucking douchebag with all your comments. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. "For. Thank you, i did proposed him Nezahal, but as i have a huge thalassophobia, i kinda don't want to see that horrid creature. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ciyYqmGAEkCdrNiBVw9JaA. Surprised to not see a [[tasigur]] on the list. There is the deck list for reference. Its not high power but it's full of recursive creatures and has great card draw so it feels impossible to ever get completely shut down.